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This game rocks :)

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: August 12, 2008
Author: Amazon User

If you're looking for a dark, fun, nostalgic RPG to play, this is it! Look no further! If you liked any of the Persona series, you will enjoy this one as well.

A game you will either love or hate, requires more effort than most.

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 0 / 1
Date: July 15, 2008
Author: Amazon User

Graphics / Design: Graphics are adequate. Characters are cell shaded nicely, environments are well shadowed and animations are fluid.

Design is not so great. Most of the dungeons are just long winding hallways and rooms with little detail. Ladders and stairs thrown in for spice. The world map dissapointed me. One, because your party is basically a blue arrow moving around, looking like a mouse cursor kind of breaks the mood. Two, becomes a sphere you walk around on the inside of, not a problem by itself, but most of it is destroyed so what you wind up with, instead of a modern urban look like Persona, is something closer to sporadic villages like most RPGs.

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Sound / Music: Is typical RPG fare with techno and industrial themes. Nothing to write home about.

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Game play: I would describe this as pokemon grown up and strung out. I say that because the encounter system is basically an exchange of money and items to acquire new demons. Occasionally a demon will beg you not to kill them or initiate conversation, but on the whole it is much less developed than that found in Persona, which I thought was much more fun to do and watch. Here neither the party nor the demons have anything interesting to say.

Battle is pretty much standard turn based, you have a number of icons corresponding to the number of party members, attacking an enemy weakness or landing a critical gets you an extra turn, missing/ being dodged loses one. Summon and recall demons at will. Only the main character can use itmes though, makes things tough.

The main character ingests magatama to alter his abilities, so a fire magatama will increase some stats and teach a fire skill at level up, while making your vulnerable to ice. This is good and bad because learning skills at level up means you can use the appropriate magatam in a dungeon and switch right before level up to get the skill you want, or you may be stuck for a while waiting on what you want.

Demon fusion is important. There isn't that much EXP from battles and you will be constantly switching out demons so fusing two weaker demons for a stronger one is the only real way to get strong party members. Of course, you can't create demons that are stronger than your main character. It's an okay system, you basically just collect who seems strong or interesting and see what you can get. Still kind of fun though.

Battle tactics are, as stated, a lot more in depth than most games. Yes, you can level up to the point where it becomes less of an issue, but you can still be taken out rather quickly. Save often.

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Story / Atmosphere: Yeah... about that, not really there. This too is dissapointing compared to Persona. The lead up is nice with you and some class mates wandering an abandoned hospital. Once the fighting starts you have to escape the hospital, but after that two hours, it's downhill. You basically run back and forth looking for you classmates and teacher, all of which seem to have ulterior motives, but it's not that interesting.

Also, presumably with all of humanity dead, towns are populated by demons and ghost like souls. This could work for the tone of the game, but half the demons are really cute, the ones that aren't don't have much to say. If there were any indication of fear, worry, entropy or any of those thigns that you would think would come along with the apocalypse, the game would feel a lot better put together.

But that would require character development and there is very little of that for any one.

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All and all, The best thing about this game is the challenge. If you like RPGs but are tired of walking through them get this. Any fight can be your last, boss fights often take multiple tries. Plus there is a very long bonus dungeon. It's also great if you want to have full control over your party development and battle style.

very VERY shoddy reprint

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 3 / 12
Date: June 27, 2008
Author: Amazon User

simply put, this is atlus' way of making quick bucks... reprint copies of games with cult followings.

good, right? not quite as atlus has done a shoddy job. First of all, some copies take forever to load. Second, don't be surprised to find plenty of dust and debris in your "sealed" game

To all you people who tried to rip me off!!!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 2 / 8
Date: June 19, 2008
Author: Amazon User

They had it in stock!!! Shazaam!!!! This is a nice blow to all the people trying to sell me a brand new copy for upwards of 100 bucks!!! Its on the way right now! Ha!

Great Game, Shameful Price

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 2 / 6
Date: August 25, 2007
Author: Amazon User

Everyone's already said the great things about the game, & it is that good, but this 'collectible' pricing needs to stop. Go to Chinatown, NY & stop this vicious cycle. If the DJ guide is included & the game is brand new, then maybe $90 would be acceptable.

A work of genius.

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 3 / 3
Date: March 08, 2007
Author: Amazon User

Whilst not completely flawless, 'Nocturne' is about as close as it's possible to get. Along with games such as ICO and Okami, it oozes quality in every way. The quasi-spiritual/religious and apocalyptic themes, and frequently challenging gameplay make for a welcome change in a genre filled with generic, unimaginative and too-easy button-mashers. Special mention must go to the graphics, which are amongst the most stylish and beautifully accomplished ever seen in a videogame.

Demon Haunted World

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 4 / 4
Date: November 02, 2006
Author: Amazon User

Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne is an innovative RPG for the patient and hardcore only. Considering that this is an Atlus game and I am writing this about two years after the games release, this game has become a rare collectors item. Look forward to paying list price for a ex-rental copy with no case or manuel, so think hard before making the investment. I can not emphasize enough that it is hard to wrestle this lengthy beast of game into submission.
If you can get past the difficulty level, people who are able to comit themselves to learning how to take advantage of the complex battle system will be well rewarded. Nocturne takes place in a ruined shell of modern day Tokyo. An evil cultist has destroyed the world in a cataclysm called the Conception. By a twist of fate, the nameless protagonist manages to survive. As he wakes up in a hospital, he discovers that he has been transformed into a demi-fiend, a being with a human soul but the apparance and strength of a demon. He'll need it, because Tokyo has become a supernatural way-station for monsters and ghosts as they wait the rebirth of the world. The few surviving humans and monsters have split into factions, all fighting for the privilege of ascending to Kagutsuchi, the demon moon, and remaking the world anew according to their own desires. In the story, it is up to you to decide if you want to join a faction or not. The ending depends on the choices the player makes.
It may sound like the story gives you a lot of freedom, but it really doesn't. It is actually very linear with only a few side-quests throughtout. However, the fighting system is were you see an abnormal amount of freedom for a J-RPG. The player only starts out with his avatar, the demi-fiend. After that, the player must start recruiting enemy monsters into his party. This is accomplished by striking up a conversation while on the battlefield. Every enemy character in the game is ultimately recruitable, however some enemies like bosses can not be bargained with. In that case, the only way to get some of the best demons is by fusing two or more allies together at the Cathedral of Shadows.
However, level is not everything in Nocturne. Instead, victory depends on mastering the press-turn system. Each character has up to eight skills it can retain. It also has innate strengths and weaknesses to some types of skills. If you hit on an enemy weakpoint, you gain an extra turn. If the enemy is immune to the attack, you lose one. Your enemies also work under this system. Have the right skills and the immunities and the battle is yours. Have the the wrong team in the wrong dungeon, and prepare to be wipped out. Nocturne can be frustrating in that regard, because it take quite a bit of time to tweak your party to be just right.
However, there are times that Nocturne just doesn't seem to play fair. For only thing, if the main character falls in battle, the game is automatically over. About half way through the bosses all learn a spell that replentishes it number of attacks per turn. Demon allies learn only one ability per level-up, and they gain levels at a much slower rate than the main character.
Let's talk about Nocturne's technical qualities. This is a visually stunning game. It may not have the most cutting edge of graphics, but this is a case of style triumphing over technical prowess. Rendered in a cel-shades style, the game mixes cool pastels and burning neons to create a world that is visually beautiful, off-kilter, and a little creepy too. It's all complimented with some wonderful music that blends contemporary sounds with some elements to make it just a little frightening.
However, the one real flaw with Nocturne is this is just not a replayable game. One play through will take at least sixty hours, and it has such a steep difficulty curve that the prospect of playing it again probably won't be appealing to most. Trust me, I am not one of those people who can only play a game one. I tried to play Nocturne again, and I realized my heart wasn't in it. However, I have played its superior follow up Digital Devil Saga three times already.
Despite everything, Nocturne is not a game that should be missed by any serious RPG fan. It is truly a one of kind experience.

So there IS Persona III before Persona III !!!

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 1 / 5
Date: October 26, 2006
Author: Amazon User

I loved Persona I and II and naturally, this game, Nocturne. It seems so far there is lotsa humour, and story is not so horror based, it is more like how Japanese writers imagine version of apocalypse.

If you liked other Atlus games for PS one I mentioned, you'll like this one. BUT, fun factor here is better than in Personas that reached America.

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Ok, I must add something now, when I beat the game (without Amala Labyrinth)

This game has best boss fights after Xenogears.

The character is built by choosing skills that are rewarded to you upon leveling up. Unfortunately, you can have just a few of myriad possible skills. Bad thing is, if you discard skills, you can be stuck later in game and not be able to get back old skills as far as I got into game.

You will need anti expel skill (from Nirvana parasite) in combination w equiping Djed matagama (anti curse parasite) for Baal Avatar (sp?), sub boss OR in my case Boss of the game.

You also need different attack skills to take out more monsters in one attack during game, but as the end of story nears, concentrate on heavy hitting skills which can damage bosses. Use Almighty matagama and get Freikugel skill, I think it is good for end of the game. I beat Baal Avaatar with Laksmi (healer, expel, curse and holy resistant) , Skadi (Windcutter magic and magic attack booster spell,expel, curse and holy resistant) and Flauros, using War Cry.

Kurama is also important ally during first part of the game, since he has good spells and skills at low levels, just like Oni and later, Albion (evoluted GogMagog) and Shiki Ouji.

Ok, just few more words: you don't have to read FAQ so frequently, but try to get list of parasites and skills they provide. Whenever fighting boss, see what kinda spell he loves and then equip parasite which absorbs attack or defends it. By exploring labyrinths and fighting, you'll progress better than reading FAQs.

There was a boss in the middle of the game which clones. FIGHT HIM AT FULL KATSAGUSHI and you will see shadow below one you need to hit.

What I disliked: items can be used by main hero only. There is spell Dragon Eye which allows enemy to get more moves per turn.

This is very addictive

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 4 / 4
Date: August 09, 2006
Author: Amazon User

Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne centres on a modern day/futuristic vision of the city of Tokyo, or rather what's about to happen to it...A short introduction sees you as a teenage boy mooching round town, before meeting two friends in a deserted hospital. After much roaming around empy corridors and wards with no random battles or anything of note happening, your patience is finally rewarded when everything suddenly plunges into chaos as the whole world is obliterated before your eyes. This is not a spoiler by any means, in fact your adventure only really begins when you awake after this wipe-out and find that your entire existance is changed forever...

Wow, this is somewhat different from RPG's that I am used to. Although in some ways it's very traditional, I would say overall it's unlike most other games of the genre. So what's going on? Well, your character has survived this holocaust, but become changed, due to the intervention of a mysterious man, whose true identity remains a mystery for much of the story. But thanks to him, you are now a half-human, half-demon, with strength and magical powers beyond your understanding. And you will need them too, to fight your way through this bewildering new world.

To start with the basics, any RPG is only as good as it's battle system, and this game has a pretty good one...here are the main points: Fighting is turn-based, although in this game the whole side gets all their actions over with before the turn passes to the enemies, so you can choose all your actions and see how they pan out before they proceed to take all their turns. Now here's where things get interesting. A number of "turn" icons appears on the screen to let you know how many actions you have remaining before the round switches to the enemy. You can add extra turns to your round if an attack exploits the enemies particular weakness (such as hitting a fire demon with an ice attack). And the more you do it, the more turns you can chain together. Of course it's not always as easy as guessing that ice magic beats fire. And if you are careless or have not established the enemies weakness, you run the risk of hitting it with something that it is immune to or, worse still, that can heal it. And if you do this, you LOSE one or sometimes even all of your upcoming turns. I think this system is really clever. It means you can never just bash away with your best skills without thinking. Plus it also means that if the enemy attacks your weak spots or manages to miss you, it will also build up or lose turns in the same way. So fighting is a battle of wits as much as power, and some harder bosses can never be whipped unless you find away to stop them taking all your turns away and having loads of extra goes themselves. Great fun. And luckily save points are quite liberal so you can always weed out the weaknesses of difficult enemies by trial and error (this is especially crucial for some bosses), and then reload and go into battle fully prepared.

The other novel thing about the fighting is that you are to all intents and purposes the only playable character. Well, you are certainly the only human character. But, you will be aided and supported in battle by a legion of weird and wonderful monsters that you meet throughout the game and manage to convince to join your party. This adds a new dimension to fighting, as you can choose to break off the battle at any time and use the "talk" command. This allows you to negotiate with any monster you are currently fighting and see if you can get them to join your team. Now, there are dozens of variables that dictate whether this succeeds or not...they may ask for steep sums of money or rare items, or they may pose moral dilemmas and make their decison based on whether they like your answer. Sometimes other enemies may step in and mess it up for you. At other times you may be surprised to find that the monsters themselves actually ask to come with you in return for sparing their life, which is quite nice! Although this one usually only happens with enemies who are at a lower level that you are...try asking a high level monster to surrender and you'll just be laughed at. Anyway, it all adds more to the gameplay, especially as there is never a sure-fire formula for winning a new monster, they are an unpredictable lot at best. You can hand over huge wads of cash and jewels, only to be told at the last minute: "I'm sorry, I just don't think we are compatible"...bah!

So, once you are holding a good supply of monsters (limited to about 6-8 at the start of the game), you can select a team of three to participate in battle with you. If a battle starts and you realise the monsters in your team have got the wrong skills for this particular fight, you can use the "summon" command to swap any of them with one from your reserves. It's that easy. Your monsters level up with experience the same as you, and learn new skills if you let them. Refreshingly, all your stats are customizable, but those of your monster allies are not. If they level up they may learn a new skill or change an existing one, or even evolve into a whole new monster if you let them. But none of this can be predicted, and the results can be fantastic, or they can cause you to regret it! Now, I said this was refreshing, although on paper it sounds like it could potentially be a complete nightmare as all your careful plans go awry because your monster went and changed the skill you were depending on into a completely useless one. It happened to me when my Pixie changed her healing magic into one I really didn't want, called "Taunt"...and I was ages on from my last save. So save often if a monster is getting close to levelling up - thankfully a "points until next level" counter is always at hand for you to check on! But in reality, the times when the changes end up being worse are very rare, and I found it great fun to see what new spells my monsters produced. It's also a proud moment to see the unexpected times that a monster you have been training up finally mutates into a brand new creature. It does not happen to all of them, and you can't foresee it, but when it does, it's always an enhancement in all departments.

But even that's not all. In each "town" there is usually a place you can go and "fuse" your monsters together, which, put simply, means combining two monsters to make a new, more powerful one. This process is also really good fun - and this time it's all under your control. The process lets you see every outcome available before you commit to doing the fusion, which is really important as otherwise you would be saving and re-loading forever to get a good result. As you may expect, there are many factors involved in fusing that can affect the result, so be prepared to spend a long time on this if you want to make some really high ranking, rare monsters. You'll need to spend a lot of time ammassing a team with a nice selection of skills, too because you'll need plenty of back-up for the bosses. And in this regard, be prepared for some real trials. The Matador ( a really cool-looking skeleton in a bull-fighter's outfit) that you encounter a few hours into the game makes for a huge jump in difficulty and for a while I thought I must have got to the area he was in before I was supposed to (I hadn't - he's just hard!). Of course after finally beating him I wanted him in my team and to my delight I was able to fuse him later, and now he works for me...another very satisfying aspect.

Now that I have praised the game enough, I need to list the drawbacks. Although there are not many, and the fun with the monster team is good enough to outweigh them....My first niggle is a simple problem of localization. The names of the monster families, spells and abilities are impossible to remember, being, as they are, all Japanese in origin. So, for example Agi is the name of the basic fire spell, while Media is the name of one of the healing spells, and a defence raising spell is known as Rakukaja. And sometimes (as in the case of fusion or skill replacing) you need to know what something is pretty sharpish before you can make a desicion...would you prefer your demon to keep Tarunda or replace it with Makajam? You also can't name the monsters in your team, and I spent a lot of time early on having to check the Status menu to see which one was the fire-pixie (it was Hua-Po), and work out which one Nozuchi was (a big hairball with feet and an elephant's trunk, if you must know). I suppose it's good to learn something akin to a foreign language, but as there easily over 100 different skills and types of monster classes in total, it's almost impossible to remember what they are without a guide.

Secondly, I found the graphics quite...unusual. Although the characters are very chic and dynamic looking cel animations, the locations can be severely bland. Most noticeably in the early hospital and shopping mall sections, every single room was identical, with a distinct lack of variety anywhere in the level as a whole. Apart from being boring, it means you have a lot of trouble knowing whereabouts in the building you are. At least the game provides a very good map for every indoor level, unlike the outdoor areas which appear as a drastically miniatuarised landscape for which there is no "world map", so exploration with trial and error is really your only option here. The battle animations are quite good though, with some very nice spell effects - although the characters "dodge" animation is absurd - it's a completely static "slide" to one side and back again, which looks like just plain lazy animation. The monsters look great, and they all have a little signature "victory dance" move that you can see when they level up - some were so cute I was actually reluctant to fuse them...I miss my little Shiisaa...

I would recommend this game to lovers of RPGs - and if you are the type who likes a bit of experimentation, you're in for a treat. You might have to make your own notes to keep track of a lot of things, though! And the dungeons are often both puzzle-based and maze like so expect to get lost a fair bit too, which adds to the overall time!

You should have hours of fun with this game. I was wary of an RPG that had a large bias towards munster hunting...I didn't want to play Pokemon. But it turned out to be very addictive and fun to play. Even when it was hard work it was good...I soon realised that when boss battles were too hard I was just going in without paying attention to strategy - because just being buffed up is NOT the key to success in this game. But with lots of saving, you should never be too frustrated.

Demons and Jack Frosts and Dante, oh my!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 6 / 6
Date: October 07, 2005
Author: Amazon User

I'd like to start off by saying that Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne is not for everyone. If you have problems with dark themes or shriek at the concept of anything remotely "demonic," you'll probably not want to play this.

Also, if you are looking for a "traditional" RPG - one with a band of likable characters going through a heroic adventure to save the world - you may find yourself disappointed in Nocturne. Characterization is small to nonexistent, and most of the time your mute hero is merely accompanied by hordes of beautifully designed but essentially characterless demons. And the story is not that of a traditional RPG either - rather than working to save the world, this game begins with it being destroyed.

You play one of the few humans left alive in this post-apocalyptic world - and indeed, no longer human, but now part-demon (and with a nifty neck spike and a set of full-body tattoos to prove it!). You make your way through this world to discover what it's like now, fighting demons and occasionally recruiting them to your side, and eventually you will choose a Reason that will remake the world in the way you want to see it remade.

Visually, the game is stunning. Kazuma Kaneko's character and demon designs are embodied beautifully in a stylish cel-shaded style. Aurally the game is not quite as outstanding, but the music is still generally quite good.

As for gameplay...Nocturne is more difficult than a lot of modern RPGs. The dungeons are long (often VERY long), the enemies are often quite tough compared to your characters, and the battle system, while easy to abuse, is also unforgiving if you make the wrong move.

(Also, for fans of Capcom's Devil May Cry series, Dante - the main character of that series - appears in Nocturne as well, and can even be recruited to join your party.)

All in all, if you're looking for an unusual and challenging RPG experience (much like the Persona games, which are a related series), you may want to give this one a try.

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