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good, but not great

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 7 / 7
Date: January 02, 2006
Author: Amazon User

I was really exited when I heard that this game was comming out.
After playing the first level, I found out that is no ordinary W.W.2. game. You controll two squads: A fire team and an Assult team. One surpresses the enemy while the other flanks them. At this point you may be wondering why I gave the game 2/5 stars because I have been saying good things about it, but I hate to say there are more bad things then good ones...
The good: 1.Not just another shoot em up, 2.fun to controll up to six men at once, 3.you are never fighting tons of enemies by yourself, 4.if you press the select button the game pauses itself and it shows you the entire map and where the enemies are.
The bad: 1.The way Sgt. Matt Baker shoots is very stupid. one time I put at least 30 M1A1 Carbine rounds into a German soldier and diddent hit him once! Whith 10 rounds left for my Carbine and only halfway through the level I pulled out my pistol and fired one shot blind and killed him! I happen to know that the M1A1 Carbine is a pretty accurate rifle and certianly more accurate then a M1911 Colt .45 so any soldier who shot that unaccurateley would never make Sargent and probibly would never be accepted into the Army let alone the elete 101 Airborne! 2.I am not German but I can speak it well and the German soldiers say: ''AAA!! I am hit'' every time you shoot them and it can get very annoying (if you dont speak German you probibly wont notice this) 3.your soldiers also talk and can also get kind of repitive too. 4. Even though this is a different type of W.W.2. shooter, your task is always the same: have one team pin the enemy down and have your other team flank them and after a while it can get kind of boreing. 5. The soldiers under your command can be kind of stupid, for example: I was leading my squads and we came under fire from an MG42 machine gun and some other enemies with rifles, so I orderd my men to take cover and all of them did execpt one, he just stood there in the open fireing his M1 Garand at the MG42 and he was quickley shot dead. 6. The soldiers under your command can die dureing gameplay but they come back to life ready to fight another day in the next level. 7. Soldiers on both sides sometimes hide behind thin wood fences and barrels, if a soldier were to do this in real life he woulg be killed fast because almost any gun could penetrate wood but in the game bullets dont seem to get through. 8. It dosent matter where you shoot am enemy, it always takes two shots to kill him. In conlusion: a good game but dont expect all the good things you may have heard about it.

JUST RENT IT

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 0 / 8
Date: March 27, 2005
Author: Amazon User

Dont be fooled by the commercials and ads for this game, they make it look ten times better than it really is. First off it is deffinately like the other guy said, 2nd your guys cant even run to all out attack ONE GERMAN with half of the team getting killed pff if its five of your guys charging one german than usually only about 2 or 3 make it back, and last the game only took me 2 afternoons to beat! (on normal) the game is finished too quick and plus there are a lot of little glitches i found about your squad, like one time instead of running my guy "floated" very fast to a position....? so anyways just rent the game, you'll have it beat in NO TIME. This game was deffinately a waiste of money...

weak

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: October 20, 2007
Author: Amazon User

I was expecting a challenge, realistic graphics, and voice acting. I got none of those things. the game was ridiculously simple with sub par graphics and terrible voice acting. I was dissapointed. if you like games like medal of honor or call of duty, you know what a real war game is. this is not one of those games.

horrible

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: April 24, 2008
Author: Amazon User

worst game of all time game very bad A.I slow very boring NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING compared to the Call of duty series those are great games. this game try's to be dramatic and be emotional. yey not. do not buy DO NOT BUY!!!!!!!!!!

Tired of all the hype and BS.

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 2 / 3
Date: March 04, 2007
Author: Amazon User

You know, I am sick of all the hype about this game by a bunch of weenies that don't seem to know real combat, real weapons or realism of any sort beyond what they see on their TV screens.

This game is not the authentic real life war on-the-battlefield war game that all the geeks are hyping and signing the party line the company puts out.

I bought two of these games after reading the reviews and I have to say that you people don't know what you are talking about.

There is pseudo-realism and that is about it. Sure the maps are close, the look and sounds of the weapons are close and even the dialog is about right, but that is about as far as it goes.

These games fall down severely on the accuracy/authenticity in several key areas.

1.Ludicrous restriction on the tactical options available to the soldiers and the squad leaders. Some of this is bad level design, some of it is probably trying to make up for the limitations of their AI, and some of it is just plain dumb.

2. Ridiculous limitations on interaction with the environments. You cannot open doors or windows. You cannot climb fences. You cannot use the wire cutters that every paratroop carried. You cannot go under a normal barbed wire fence, which thousands of hunters do several times a day in america.

Barrels and crates don't blow up or even move when hit by a tank. You can't even climb over a low wall that some other men just went over.

Perhaps most unforgivable of all, you cannot go into a prone position or crawl. You know, the stuff they teach everyone in BASIC TRAINING!

3. The gunsights are ludicrous. The amount of creep even in a crouching position is ridiculous. If I was that shakey I'd head for the retirement home.

4. Terrible path blocking and object collision detection. Quite a few times when I had a perfect view of a target and as perfect a sight picture as you would ever want I could not hit the target no matter how many rounds I fired. In real life I would have put a round through both ears of my target.

5. Absurd size of the weapons relative to your field of vision when zoomed in. Come on folks this is ridiculously UN-authentic. There is a reason for the open sights on fast action weapons like the Thompson and other SMG weapons.

6. Really stupid scenario designs. There are several instances where you are put face to face with tanks and no tactical options except to run for enemy panzerfausts. Making this worse of course are the level designs that force you to follow a relatively linear and restricted path to said anti-tank weapons. This is completely ridiculous.

7. Poor level designs. Too many places you cannot go or step when you should be able to. Places you cannot jump over or crawl under where you should. Only in EIB do you get to even blow holes in the hedges with the TNT that all paratroops carried as part of their standard pack during that theater of operations, and then only in key places and one whole scenario.

8. Situational awareness mode. Give me a break. This is supposed to substitute for the advance study done by the troops? It's not even as good as a raw topo map dump. You are chained to camera angles around key points and there are no indications of any significant type for changes in elevation and quite often the terrain features are faded out due to the choices made for the camera angle.

9. Another limiting factor is that you cannot issue movement commands to a location you know is there but are not lined up on directly yourself and you had better be on the side away from the enemy when you issue the order. This could have been easily fixed by using some option to issue commands while in situational mode, especially if that were better done.

10. Lastly the much hyped authentic tactics. Authentic, sure, in a very introductory and watered down way, severely limited in permutations, applications and variations due to all the other limitations of the game.

By the way, I am both a veteran and an experienced programmer and I am highly disappointed with this game on both counts.

If this is the latest in realism then it shows what a sorry state the gaming industry really is in. Of course I still haven't seen AI in a commercial game yet that matched up to what I saw undergrad programmers doing in college during the 80s. We deserve better and it's not that hard to do. It's time we stopped allowing these companies to hype this stuff up like it is so great when it's all fluff like pretty pictures and sound.

Oh, one PS. The AI cheats. You can observe how the enemy becomes magically aware of things completely out of the blue, such as someone being behind them, not moving or firing, and behind cover. This is inexcusable.

waste of money----even if you rent the game for 5 bucks

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 1 / 14
Date: July 03, 2005
Author: Amazon User

This game is way to short. Its only 14 missions long and each mission takes about 10-15 minutes (for me anyway). The shotting is impossible from far away with a automatic or a rifle. The enemies are smarter than your guys by a long shot. Your guys get them selves killed only taking on one german. If you get shot your gun shakes and its impossible to shoot someone that is even one foot infront of you. The game is fun and I enjoyed playing it, but i couldnt enjoy myself for long becuase I finished the game before i could one glass of milk that I was drinking before i started to play the game. I gave it bad reviews because it deserved it.

make it a rental..

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 4 / 10
Date: March 24, 2005
Author: Amazon User

Okay so I was pretty stoked to play this game so like a lemming off a cliff I ran and bought it without
RENTING IT FIRST.
Bad idea.
Dumb mistake.
I bought into the hype and now I'm very disappointed. Maybe it's because I'm playing on a PS2, but this game felt somehow un-finished. My biggest gripe is the squad AI: it's a bit on the weak side. When you highlight an area where you wish them to go, they only move somewhat near to it. If it happens to be nowhere near cover, too bad, they end up dying. It's pretty frustrating because you need your team mates to make it through this game.
It seems as though the makers have ignored what other squad based FPS's have already accomplished, which is strange considering it's Ubi soft. I mean, look at how well Ghost Recon plays.
Why couldn't this game have that kind of squad interface?
I think it is very important for people to RENT THIS GAME FIRST.
Sorry, but it just doesn't live up to the hype.

Nice tactics, terrible game play.

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 2 / 6
Date: October 18, 2005
Author: Amazon User

You shoot people 10 times and they're still shooting at you?!? Oh wait you have to get up close and personal in order for your shots to hit, and still, if you don't zoom in the chances of you hitting them are slim. I don't know how many head shots I had in this terrible game and yet the enemy is still sitting there shooting at me.

As far as the tactics go, those are new and good; maybe some good programmers will take this to another level cause the programmers for this game obviously need to go back to school. How hard is it when the crosshair is right on someone and you hit the fire trigger, to give the player a hit??? Wow.

One mission I shot a tank twice with a rocket launcher, one time from the front, then a second time (after I died) from the back, yet the tank lives isn't that wonderful? No, this game stinks. And for the record I didn't shoot the tank in the same spots.

The only way I'd play the next Brothers In Arms is if it isn't made by the same people or if it's free. What a waste of a good, new feature for a shoot em' up war game.

Get it for XBox instead if you have one...Otherwise no need to bother.

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 0 / 1
Date: April 19, 2006
Author: Amazon User

(BTW:I own PS2,XBox,GameCube,XBox 360 and am a future PS3 and NRev owner so my views are non-biased)
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I don`t know why people bother putting tactical-shooters on PS2,Apart from multiplayer modes they are no good,Ghost Recon,Rainbow Six,Full Spectrum Warrior,Conflict,Brothers In Arms and so on are just not suited for the PS2,its all down to stubborn controlls that are confusing and it all turns into a button-bash which stresses people out-The XBox controller is more carefully set out for tactical-shooter games and they run smoothly.
The reason i gave BIA:RTH30 on PS2 3 stars rather than 1 stars is because the graphics are decent,the WWII scenes are accurate and the story is rich.
However PS2 does have three good tactical-shooters,they are SOCOM,SOCOM II and SOCOM 3 which were made specifically for PS2 and it has good Online too.
If you are looking for 5 good shooter games on PS2:

1)BLACK(Brilliant game)
2)Half-Life(old,but its good)
3)any SOCOM game.
4)Cold Winter
5)Project:SNOWBLIND

But when it comes to WWII-PS2 still has the brilliant Call Of Duty and Medal Of Honor games-So you ain`t missin out on anything from BIA other than a rich storyline.

Hmmmmm

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 0 / 14
Date: March 24, 2005
Author: Amazon User

Well i wish i coud review the game itself .I put in the pre order so i could get this game when it came out and the merchant that was listed as the seller was Office Depot.Got the game ,opened it up,and though it was factoory sealed it had strange markings on the disc.Gave it a try anyways and it was defective,wouldn't read the disc on my playstation or my brother's.So I called office depot and they said over 24 hours ago they would send me an e-mail of where to send it so i can be credited on the purachase,said they can't exchange it not even for the same game,have to just reimburse me.So now i have to wait for this e-mail to send it back (which hasn't come yet over a day later),then send it back so i can get reimbursed and then try to purchase this game again.Defeated the whole purpose of pre ordering it to get it right away when it came out.So now i will be like one of the last ones to get this game instead of the first.Office Depot usually has the lowest price on "new games" but as i found out it looks like you get what you pay for with them.Think from now on i will pay the extra dollar or so for a merchant like J&R music world who ships games much faster than office depot and who had a solution for me within 15 minutes of recieving the wrong game when i got the wrong game one time from them (which was amzon's fault for showing PS 2 box of the game on the Xbox game,not J&R's fault)

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