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as good as they get

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 15 / 17
Date: August 01, 2003
Author: Amazon User

normally, i use a mac, but when i bought my windows game box, i had to buy some food for it. i ordered, with low expectations, a whole bunch of [cheap games] including these old thief games. what i got absolutely astounded me. let me start by saying i dont play internet games, and the military games so much in vogue dont interest me (the real history is so much more fascinating). with thief, here are two games that are "shooters" where you dont have to kill anyone. as a matter of fact, the higher levels of expertise require that you dont. in this way, this game reminds me of two of the best ever, deus ex and nolf.

it is often easier to kill the people who are obstructing you in your larcenous quests, but that makes the games easier . when i am stealing, all these characters attempt to interfere. killing them allows the player to steal in a stress free environment, but a good thief shouldnt kill. the difficulty level depends not on the strength of opponents, but on the number of tasks and objectives you have to accomplish. on expert difficulty, you must find many hidden relics, gather more loot, kill fewer people, all while getting less available health. health is very uncommon, so you have to go through this whole game taking almost no hits (no convenient medikits) which adds considerably to the difficulty. many reloads are required.

thief 1 is an old game, with rather crude graphics. dont let this fool you. it is dark, creepy, and very difficult. for outright fear, it is better than Undying, and there are several levels that are as hard as any video game (bonehoard, haunted cathedral, and return to the cathedral). you have to contend with haunts, zombies, burricks (overgrown frogs with bad breath), bugmen, and scissorhands. this is video gaming at its best. thief 2 is more refined. the bad guys are more plausible, though not as scary, and the combination of middle ages setting with modern technology (electricity) can be quite amusing. the police station which you must infiltrate has all the modern accoutrements despite its medieval location. the shooting range has the electric target track runners, but with archery targets. the levels are HUGE, particularly citibank, party, and soulforge.

two complaints only: the two game set does not contain the "gold" version, typical of windows reissues, and its not available for mac. games of this quality should be.

so, if youre looking for games which are exciting, challenging, and give a sense of accomplishment, and at the same time have a cheap price, forget the fact that these are old and look at the gameplay and the level design. they have not been surpassed.

Two of the BEST Games EVER made

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 9 / 9
Date: February 11, 2003
Author: Amazon User

there comes a time in the life of a gamer when he grows tired of playing the same old boring FPS (First Person Shooter) games he or she have come to love (don't get me wrong, they still rock!) this is where thief and thief 2 come in. when i first got these two games, my heart pounded in suspense, my mind was going haywire, and the drool slowly formed in pools on the table. no game to this date has captured my ultimate interest, passion, excitement, and overall fun than these two games. these are the BEST games i have EVER played. not even Deus Ex matched up to all of the amazement and wonder i went through as i played these games. this game is a "first person sneaker" where stealth is more crucial than braun (and i mean it, this isn't your metal gear solid 2, i could just cap him easily sort of thing!) guards react to your sounds and the sight of you, shadows are used to hide, items such as water arrows, mines, scouter eyes, etc, are your allies, and the gold and wealth is yours for the taking (literally, you can steal valuables for money!) graphically, the dark engine is outdated, but who cares, it still looks decent in my book, adds a rich and creepy atmosphere, and can handle even low end machines. not only do you go up against guards, but machines, beasts, and the ever-so-popular undead as well (which totally will scare the living ... out of you). overall, if you want two incredible games with great stories, gameplay, atmosphere, and strategy, GET THESE GAMES IMMEDIATELY! also, be on the lookout for Thief 3, by Ion Storm. Gaming Guru Creator Warren Spector (Deus Ex, System Shock 2) is helping in the design and the graphics will be using the Unreal Havoc engine. Thank you, Looking Glass, for a tremendous experience!

"When I Find You..."

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 8 / 8
Date: October 13, 2005
Author: Amazon User

What more can be said about the geniuses that were Looking Glass Studios? First the brilliant sci-fi, 1st person, cyberpunk, action, horror games "System Shock" and its better "System Shock 2" (greatest PC game ever made) and the two Thief games here. After the 2nd game, LG folded and much sadness filled the land...

Well Thief 1 & 2 are amazing examples of intelligent game design and story.

You'd think that sneaking around the corners and shadows would be boring but playing Garrett's role as master thief is a unique adventure.

The array of weapons and tools are impressive. Lock-picking and keys give the game an edge I've never seen before except maybe the "hacking" in the System Shock games.

The characters and story lines are very intricate and engrossing. The dialogue jumps from modern-ish (Garrett's monologues) to Medeival (all else). Stephen Russell does a terrific job for the voice of Garrett (he also did voice overs in SS2) as well as the rest of the actors giving the characters life. Some of the dialogue is funny (Here chicky, chicky...) but not silly (except for the drunkards). The passages, letters and signs are well written giving the "religions" in the games depth.

You're hard-pressed to find more engrossing games than what Looking Glass created. Deus Ex comes close because it takes aspects from all 4 games (sneaking,cyber-punk, hacking, weapons, shadows, great voice-over actors) and makes a terrific game as well.

Find any of these and I'm quite sure you'll never stop playing these games till your eyes bleed or butt falls asleep.

"Brilliant! What else yah got?"

Two of the best computer games ever.

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 7 / 7
Date: March 26, 2003
Author: Amazon User

I bought these individually when they were first released. They are some of the best computer gaming times I've had. Every 6 months or so, I re-install them and play through again. On expert level. At night with the lights off. Wearing headphones to get the full effect.

The first time through, you will have dreams about this game. And when you aren't playing it, you will still look for shadows to hide in, and listen to your own footsteps.

Thief 1 was released in 1998, and Thief 2 in 2000, so the graphics are a few years old--lower res, and fewer polys than modern games (as mentioned by other reviewers) but don't let that stop you. The enjoyment and playability is equal or better than anything released since!

Thief 1 & 2 Bundle

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 5 / 5
Date: February 06, 2007
Author: Amazon User

This is a terrific game that I really enjoy. Sneaking, hiding, putting a monkey wrench in the workings of the bad guys... an awesome game to play even though it is older software.

The only problem is that it freezes due to problems with my new ATI graphics card. This version says that it is XP compatible but doesn't seem to work any better than the nonXP compatible version.

Engrossing-addicitve

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 3 / 3
Date: January 21, 2003
Author: Amazon User

This was a surprise for me - I am normally an RPG player, but this was as good if not better than most RPG games. The character, the storyline are richly developed and draws you in so that when it ends it leaves you wanting more. I'm with the first reviewer - I want Thief 3, 4, 5, 6.....

The game that won me over to action-adventures

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 3 / 3
Date: March 17, 2003
Author: Amazon User

I thought nothing could be better than graphic adventures like Riddle of the Sphinx or the Myst series. I heard this game was about NOT trying to kill, so I gave it a try and within minutes I knew what I had been missing. I'm only half way through Thief I and already I'm waiting for Thief III. The game is enormous especially using Alex Fung's terrific, huge walkthru to experience the entire game.
This game makes you think. No mindless killing, in fact 'Experts' must NOT kill or they will fail the mission. I love the quiet and the solitude without worrying about something jumping out at you. Nothing is timed. No traditional puzzled to pull your hair out over. Treasures are everywhere and so are ingenious traps. The selection of arrows (water to put out torches, moss to soften footsteps, fire to explode on impact, etc.) make this game the best gaming experience I have ever had and I have played over 100 adventure games. This is the only game I have felt I wanted to write a review for.

Justadventure.com is monitoring the latest from the developers of Thief III, so take a look.

Holds up 3 years later

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 2 / 2
Date: May 02, 2003
Author: Amazon User

Man, what an incredible couple of games! Can't say enough great things about them. I reinstalled Thief 1 this week after not having played it for about 3 years, and it's still just as amazing now. "Return to the Cathedral" is a legendary level, and it very well might scare the gonads outta the ol' jewel bag when the undead guard rushes up on you.

Thief 2 is just as good and creey in a slightly more science-gone-awry way.

Both of these games succeed in creating a very specific feeling world that you will think about once the box is shut off. The level of dramatic tension they deliver is incredible, on par with a really good scary film.

Im not sure if I love it or hate it.

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 2 / 2
Date: July 28, 2003
Author: Amazon User

This game has a wonderful idea for it and a great storyline, but Garrett the Thief has such glitchy movement that I almost thought of giving it 1 star, but once you can get past that this game is wonderful. Buy this package while its still 15 dollars before it goes out of stock.

I need an answer:

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 15 / 85
Date: October 08, 2003
Author: Amazon User

My 16 year old doughter plays this game all the time. The younger children like to watch her play it and "participate" in the playing of it. I noticed now that it is rated M for mature, and I don't know If I should make them stop playing this game. For "yes" please click yes, for "no" please press no. I need this answer quickly. Thank you.
By the way, people who like these kind of games would like this one!

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