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A must have if you play EQ, or wish to start

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 3 / 4
Date: September 30, 2002
Author: Amazon User

This expansion is well worth the money if you are a current EQ player, and is a *must have*. Even if you have never played EQ, and are considering trying it out, this expansion is highly desirable.

Don't worry about performance hits to your PC from the addition of Luclin. While Luclin is laggier than the original EQ release, it is much less than the first EQ expansion (Kunark). I attribute this to the richer textures found on the moon. Using my ancient computer (with no 3d card), you can play in Luclin with only minimal lag (most zones).

What makes Luclin so desirable is its convenience. In the Norrath (the old world), you had to travel long distances for everything. This made the game dull as you spent half your online time running around. In Luclin, almost everything is less than 4 zones away from the center of the moon. Banks, vendors, cites, and hunting grounds are all nearby.

Most importantly, bankers, vendors and guards in Luclin do not care (for the most part) about old-world faction. Dwarven vendors in Luclin will gladly sell to Ogres and Trolls. They don't seem to care what deity you worship, or what horrible things you did on Norrath. In Luclin, you start out fresh, free of any persecution (or favor) you may have faced in the old world.

Another huge convenience is the availability of some excellent hunting grounds (for all levels) that reward the player with excellent loot and experience. In the old world, the monsters that gave you the best experience also gave you the worst loot, and likewise, rich loot came from monsters that gave meager experience gains.

As for treasure, Luclin monsters drop some of the best gear you can get at the level you are hunting. In Norrath, you were hard pressed to find monsters you could kill that would give anything worthwhile for your level. To get suitable gear, you had to assemble a strong raiding party, trek to a dangerous, far-away zone, venture deep into maze-like dungeons, and then hope to win the draw for a rare item from a rare spawn that may appear once in several hours. That, or just save every copper piece you could gather, travel to a popular selling zone, and then stick around waiting for someone to offer items you need and can afford.

You can hunt solo at any level in Luclin. Monsters of the same level are slighly stronger than they were in the original world of Norrath, but not as overpowered as the creatures found in the Kunark and Velious expansions.

Having all 3 expansions, here is the breakdown of my online time spent in each:

Old-world Norrath - 80% for characters level 1 through 14, 3% for characters above level 15 (usually come here just to buy spells)
Kunark - 3% for characters level 1 through 16 (usually to buy spells), 5% for characters above level 30 (usually come here for quests), 5% for characters above level 50 (for experience or quest related raids)
Velious - 0% for characters under level 30, 30% for characters above level 50 (dragon raids mostly)
Luclin - 15% for characters under level 14, 65% for characters level 15+

SoL, is a must have.

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 2
Date: May 29, 2002
Author: Amazon User

I have 633 mhz, 256 mb RAM, and a GeForce 2 on my computer. I keep everything on high, seeing the game at it's best. And Lag? What is this lag you all speak of? Because lag is as rare as any rare spawn on the face of Norrath (And Luclin ;)! I keep on as many character models my computer can handle (which is about half of them) And the game runs just fine. I get a little lag here and there, mostly from being around a huge group of people, but other then that no problums. ^^

And what do people see in DAoC? Ive played it. I had fun with it for a little while, but it just gets old and it gets old FAST. In EQ, the choices for places to explore is almost endless, not to mention everytime I vist certain zones I just stand back and think "Wow". In DAoC... I see a castle...Woohoo a castle! This game is soooo cool now! Not to mention all the characters look the same. Oh! and the helms! I can't stttaaannnddd the helms in DAoC! Looks like my character is wearing a bowl on her head. Im stickin with EQ. There's no other online game that is just so different, in so many ways then EQ. Not to mention challanging!

A reasonable add-on, though system intensive

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: May 23, 2002
Author: Amazon User

Well, I've been playing EQ for a reasonably long time... about a year, perhaps. For an avid player, this is simply a must-have, just so you can journey to the moon with all your friends who are inevitably going to want to go. For anyone new to EQ, make sure you are "in" to the game, first, before purchasing this expansion.

HOWEVER, this addition is a HUGE performance hit on slow machines with slow processors and/or not enough memory. Though it sort of improves on past performance issues (like the graphics in Kunark), the texturing can sometimes make previously "fast" areas quite slow (eq. Qeynos and similiar cities will lag on slower machines). If you have a slower machine, use this expansion for the maps only and wait to turn on the extra options (esp. texturing) until you have a faster machine.

So much hype about DAoC... yeah right!

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 1 / 1
Date: May 22, 2002
Author: Amazon User

Everyone here who is disrespecting EQ in favor of DAoC make me laugh. I played DAoC and even have a level 43 healer and I don't think I'm the only person to say that DAoC gets boring fast. Small realms, not many different faces to choose from, all the armor looks alike (it's just how you dye it). The only classes I found interesting were Healer (Midgard), Bard (Hibernia), and Mentalist (Hibernia). But it's not enough to keep me interested.

In DAoC if you die, the worst thing that happens is you release, get sent back to your bind spot with everything on you, pay a few gold to get back your lost constitution and you're out some xp! This seems SO appealing to people who used to play EQ because you don't have the CR.

Imagine this though... playing with a group of people who don't worry at all about the consequences of really bad playing. They break mezzes, they don't protect the healer (in EQ you keep the cleric alive at all costs!), there are very very few good players in DAoC. It's a perfect place to go if you don't care about improving your skills and abilities.

If you want a game that you can just screw off, not worry about character development, it's a perfect game for you. If you die you're out in no time and you can log out of the game.

In EverQuest, playing well is something you must learn how to do. Sure there are high levels who can't play very well but from what I have observed (and I played on all 3 realms in DAoC) there is an overwhelming percentage of people in DAoC who do not care if they play well or not. They don't care about learning the strategies for a good group, they don't care if they get the group killed, it's no big loss for anyone.

In my experience with EverQuest people understand who can tank and who cannot tank. In DAoC everyone thinks they can tank! You try telling a rogue class (on any server in DAoC) that they are not to get agro and be prepared for them to rant and rant all day about how they can tank. People just do not understand their roles in DAoC. Of course I'm generalizing but aren't we all generalizing here?

Both games are interesting, and I was obviously very hooked on DAoC for quite some time, but DAoC is so limiting. When you do actually hit level 50 there's no where else to go. In EQ you can always work on alternate xp and work up your skills in other areas to make you a more effective player.

So, you people who tear apart EQ and make DAoC seem like it's the cure to everything. You are misleading people SO much! I'll stick to EQ!

Love it, unbelievable!

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: May 14, 2002
Author: Amazon User

All I can say is wow! Verant has done a great job with the new expansion to EQ, the new player models are amazingly eye-candyish. I was starting to get a little bored with the original eq graphics engine, ie. where there can be 10 different bp's that look exactly the same. No more! They actually have there own style now, yay! Along with just about everything else in Luclin. My pally looks extra ubber now, cuz he is =)

Now I can actually see paying the extra 3 bux a month for it, seeing has how there is a great new area to explore, and more great terrain to rome around in.

On the technical side of things, I didnt really notice a problem in the required specs, maybe if I had an older computer then I would be a little leary. XP 1800, 1 gig of ram, and a rusty old GeForce 2 MX 400 does the trick in luclin, I never notice a signifcant drop in fps playing a 1024x768.

If you are an avid EQ player, then i HIGHLY recommend that you purchase this is expansion, it is definately worth the [money].

Side note: If you play EQ on the Mithaniel Marr server, msg me sometime and we will go raid or quest or something =) My name is Kitheril Rengate.

Love the game...

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 1 / 1
Date: May 02, 2002
Author: Amazon User

Huge fan so my review is biased, just wanted to say that if your only reason to buy games is for "the graphics", then this probably is not the game for you. EQ's engine is a bit dated, but I'm not a huge fan of flash over substance.

Everyone concerned with the requirements for the new engine, let me just restate what people have said before me, the engine is scaleable. Yes, you can still run this game on a high end p2/celeron with 128megs ram as long as your video card supports Dx8 (usually a free driver update is all you need), but really people, with semi-decent low end GeForce Cards going for [money] and RAM at [money] for 256Megs, what's your excuse for not upgrading? More RAM = Less Disk Swaps = Happier Computer Verant Recommends 512Megs, bit high, but check out the next gen games coming out. Even the Sims Vacation (a seriously old game, but a GOOD game) requires a P2/300 now (used to be a Pentium 233 Minimum).

Verant customer support is only negative thanks to the Internet, anyone that's accidentally destroyed an item then gone postal at Verant demanding this or demanding that ends up getting the "book" thrown at them (Verant documents their item replacement policy very explicitly on everquestlive.com). I've had the occasional problems, but I've found that a /petition and a polite email to the powers that be will get the items replaced. Granted it may take time, but I have much respect for the "Guides" and "GMs" on EQ (Customer Support), they work hard for little thanks and every one of them is a pretty cool person.

You get out of the game what you put into it. There is a lot of depth and substance in EQ, problem is that it's not conveyed really well, but if you have no life and a lot of spare time on your hands the world of Norrath is quite fun to explore and hang with people.

Remember, this game can be highly addictive, and even after 3 years with 3 (soon to be 4) expansions it's still hard to put down. Some other things to remember:

- Verant doesn't control the Internet. If you get Lag in the game do something about it. Call your ISP, run a "Trace Route" on your connection. Not all ISPs are created equally, get out there, do the research, find the BEST ISP for gaming and that'll probably help. You get out of the Internet what you put into it.

- Bugs are in the game, but there are bugs in every game out there, believe me.

- DAoC - Played it, loved it, stopped playing at level 30, why, BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE TO DO! Graphics are nice, I love the setting, but darn if I wasn't bored outta my skull. (Yes, I'm an EQ fan, but like I said, DAoC is a great game)

- I'm a Beta2 tester from EQ (Verant had 3.5 Beta rounds with EverQuest where we got to wander around and help with bug finding), and I still play.

ok.. Sony didn't learn the lesson

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 0 / 2
Date: April 28, 2002
Author: Amazon User

1)Graphic is old (please, wake up and compare this game with others MMORPG on the market now)
2)Lag is awful
3)Customer service? .. hemmm what is it?
4)Bugs: at will !
5)Camp, camp, camp .. and camp again. Play EQ if you like to camp mobs for hours and hours and hours,wasting your time doing the same thing at will.
6)SoL is huge, yes, but if you think this is a positive thing then prepare yourself to spend HOURS running up and down with an high % to be killed by lag & ubermonsters.
7)This game is a dinosaur in the MMORPG world!

P.S.: played EQ for 3,5 years: I know very well what is this game.

Now I'm a DAoC player and I'm happy !
Good Luck EQ players!!! The whole "very-first-set-of-EQ-players" (we tested it) is waiting for you in DAoC.

A lesson in poor insperation

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 2 / 9
Date: April 16, 2002
Author: Amazon User

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I'm not here to yell at Everquest players to run to DAOC or any other game, I am here to point out why you shouldn't buy this title.

For starters, and probably the main concern is, the system requirements are LUDICRIST. A gig of RAM?! Ok, Yes, I have this in my computer, but for what you are given, this is appallingly stupid. I can run Ghost Recon with the graphics set at 1024x768 and have upwards of 36 players on the screen at a time and only begin to notice a drop in frame rate. Take a look a a screenshot from SoL and Ghost Recon and you will see what I mean.

Everquest is running on a several year old engine and instead of building a new one, which, god forbid would be a good idea even if it would cost money, would make the game far better, instead they just drop more and more into the old engine and over tax it.

They have also, recently, raised the price of a subscription.

The entire interface, while it has been improved repeatedly, is still monotonous. Lots of clicking and dragging to do the simplest tasks, things that could easily be done a different and better way. While most games are bad about it, EverQuest is a hallmark to the advancement of carpal tunnel.

Game play is overly redundant. Gamers, most of your time will be spent Killing a monster then sitting down and waiting for another, that looks exactly like the one you just killed, to spawn. Over and over and over.
On a side note, it is a wonderful waste of time.

In the end, mark my word, you will fight, scream when you die, become irritated trying to get your stuff back and then do it all again because you have found yourself lost in a word with no more depth than a chatroom

Great game but with a few minor drawbacks.

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 0 / 1
Date: April 01, 2002
Author: Amazon User

This is one of the best online games i have ever played, because of its countless environments, creatures, items, spells, and i could keep going almost forever. Its very addictive and fun. But one of the drawbacks is that it wont get really fun untill you get to a level above 25, and that could take a few months. Also they didnt make the old areas of the game much better, they did make them nicer but not as good as Luclin. The game is great with only a few tiny drawbacks so you should buy it and try it out and I dont think you will hate it.

Eq addict from MO

4 Rating: 4, Useful: 0 / 0
Date: March 28, 2002
Author: Amazon User

I bought this game within the first week it was out and was so excited to try it I could hardly wait for stores to restock their shelves before I was able to get a copy....... then reality struck.

I had 386 with plenty of free space and their other recommendations met and still had lag galore forever. I couldnt play on the moon for a long time and all I kept hearing from verant was "reinstall your vid card".... so I did, several times, using their link from their website. I also was told to reinstall all my expansions (which wipes out ur custom buttons btw). Not a good idea. Eventually figured to try reinstalling the vid card from manufacturers site and that did the trick for the most part but still had to get the full 512 for it to run better. It says min requirements 250 but dont believe it.

As much as I love EQ I have never seen any other game with 512 needed for proper gameplay.. and it still had problems. Now several patches later things are smoothed out a ton but I dont believe they even spent 6 mths in beta testing.

The game itself is phenomonal. Brillant colors and textures with wonderfully improves graphics for the char models. More options for personallizing your chars but I still think that for 512 we should have had more options. Many of the male chars, esspecially, still look all alike in the face.

I am still an EQ addict but I tell you my confidence is wavering about the next expansion unless it is a step back to fix things and just offer more options.

Nic from MO

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