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Do not waste your time

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 6 / 9
Date: November 02, 2004
Author: Amazon User

I find it humorous that there are several 5 star reviews posted for this game. This is the very first time I've written a review and I'm doing so to hopefully tip the tide of the obvious fanboy reviews posted.

The game is terrible. It lacks so much I don't know where to begin. From point-to-click movement, to be player killed within 10 minutes of starting play, the game leaves much to be desired.

I spent about 6 hours trying to play this game. Here is a recap of the "fun" I had:

1 - Created a character that literally has 3 variations (so yes, everyone looks the same).
2 - Tried to figure out who to talk to or where to go to even begin play. The first "quest" was easy to find and accomplish, from there, I had to level to get additional quests.
3 - Trying to level was a chore, not because of the mobs or the graphics, but due to the childish players on the server. My girlfriend playing next to me (we play side-by-side) is getting tells asking to cyber, while I'm asking (repeatedly) for players to stop attacking me. Some childish players (more than 5 approached me) tried to kill me over and over, begging me to hit them so they wouldn't affect their status. And trying to keep players and teams from stealing every mob I approached.

I've played EQ, DAoC, AO, CoH and now this. The game lacks direction, it doesn't help you learn to get involved in your character's creation, etc. All in all, this game is frustrating and has little replay or fun value...at all.

Great Game

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 6 / 9
Date: September 23, 2004
Author: Amazon User

I got this game last week and all I can say is "WOW!" I played AC all the way through college and was looking to get back into it. I called a few of my old AC friends and found out that all of them had switched to this game. After installing it I can see why. The graphics are amazing, even on the lowest setting. I noticed a little bit of lag, but nothing as bad as I was expecting after reading everyone elses reviews. I'm on a wireless DSL connection that really isn't even that great to begin with. The only time I experiance Lag is in the cities around where everyone congregates to sell things. I have had a few run-ins with PK'ers but that is all part of the game. All you really have to do is tell people in the towns that a PK'er is out there killing the newbies and a high level guy will go out there and take care of him for you. It's all part of the game. Sure you may loose some experiance but the game is designed so that it actually helps you to get killed every once in awhile in the long run. If you level up too far without getting killed you run into problems with your skills (at least that's how a veteren player explained it to me, I'm not really high enough to know yet). Things are expensive in the game, but it makes you feel that much better once you get it. AC had too much money in it and beginners would just get high level stuff from other players. In L2 that doesn't happen as much because people pay so much for something they don't just want to give it away.
Some people have posted that their isn't enough character customization in L2. While I somewhat agree, people still find ways and I don't have any problems telling people apart so far.
The down side to the game is the $15 a month charge to play, that can get pretty expensive in the long run. But I figure that's just cutting three movie rentals out of my budget, so it's not too bad.
If you like hard-core MMORPG's, exploring, and grouping with other player then you will like L2. If you don't like investing a lot of time to get levels and experiance then this isn't the game for you. Good luck and happy gaming.

Disappointed

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 10 / 20
Date: March 17, 2004
Author: Amazon User

When I got into Beta, I was thrilled. However, once I started to actually play the game, I was very disappointed.

Good Points:
If you enjoy PVP and just killing monsters or other players then you will most likely enjoy the game.
The game has beautiful graphics and a wonderful soundtrack.

Bad Points:
Very few quests available
Nothing really to do except to go out and level your character by killing things.
No tradeskills available except to dwarves.
No restrictions on Player Killing (PK). Any person can kill anyone else, regardless of the difference in levels of the two players.
Very limited character creation options such as only 2 different faces or hair color to choose from. For example, elves could choose light blond or yellow blond for their hair color.

I am hoping that some of these things improve before the game is release; however, considering that it has already been released overseas, I doubt there will be many changes to come. Hence, why I would not recommend the game unless you enjoy just killing things.

Good, but not great

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 4 / 5
Date: April 25, 2004
Author: Amazon User

I got to participate in this beta. The game play was better than average, but there was a definite lack of balance between the melee types and the magic types, at the lower levels. And the dwarves were very challenging.

Melee classes get better skills at lvl 5, and more at lvl 10, then more later. The skills at lvl 5 mostly cost 60SP (Skill Points) or 120, and the lvl 1, 2, and 3 skills are all the same charge. Casters get better skills at lvl 7, and they cost 180 or 240 SPs for lvl 1, 2, and 3. I found the caster types were continually behind in training up skills, due to a serious lack of earned SPs.

The dwarves were the hardest, as they didn't get any combat skill enhancements until lvl 20, nor an ability to heal faster. But, they were the only race that could craft. Crafting prior to lvl 15 was too expensive to bother. So, you have 15 levels to get through, painfully, before you could reasonably start to turn a profit. I thought the dwarfs took too long to develop, in comparison with the other races. The SP cost for skills was horrific.

Orcs were fun as melee, but the mystics were harder to understand, mostly because the magic system isn't the same for all races. Not that this is a bad thing, but in the short time I was in beta, I played one briefly and opted to switch to a human caster, instead. Easier to follow.

I don't know how the balance issues may pan out. They weren't devestating, but when my wife and I both played together, and she was melee and I was caster, she easily was much more effective, and had SPs to spare.

Note, 50% of the female Dark Elves you will see are guys that want to run around in a thong body harness! All DE's run around in Anime style, all bent over at the waist, and the starting female DE outfit is going to make a LOT of 12-18yr old (and older) boys happy. Though once they start getting good equipment, the fascination will wear off.

The Point and Click movement is poor, but at least you can use your keyboard. They really need to allow you to map your movement keys. I personally hate the arrows, and like an ASDW setup. But, that wasn't an option, which soured me on the game.

I won't be playing when it goes live. Even though you can pick up and leave off the game easily, City of Heroes was more fun.

Pour excuse of mmorpg

1 Rating: 1, Useful: 7 / 13
Date: September 06, 2004
Author: Amazon User

k.,...u start of at lvl one at villages full of idiotic kids that will call u newb and will kill u for the fun of it. extremely difficult to outrun them. everytime u die, u loose experience, thus being nearly impossible to move on the game. when u finally figure out the pks time table, (when they are on line and when they are not) and u finally start playing, u come to realize that u can never make enough money to buy upgraded weapons and armor. so u find ur self constrained in killing the same monsters for weeks in order to make money. when u buy ur new equipment, u find out that the cost to get to the mainland is such that u have to fight some more to make the money... by the time u raise the money, the new armor and weapon u bought is totally not suited for ur lvl, and u find out how extraordinary the prices are again.

the biggest joke is the experience point system. for instance u kill a monster and gain 600xp points and 100 adena (the games currency), when u gain lvls, the same monster will give u half the xps and nearly no adena. the question is, taking into concideration that u need approx. 20 minutes for 10 monsters, when are u going to raise 3,000,000 adena to buy an armor? MERCY...I ask for MERCY!!

i could not possibly go on discribing the downsides of this game...amazing!!!

i think the game is a joke...so pls...move on to something else.

oh and bare in mind the lag....some elpy (rabbit or whatever lvl 1) will kill u during the amazingly long lag times.

Its only good thing is the graphics....

I am so sorry i spent money on this

Chameleon
28 years old

A mixed bag

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 3 / 3
Date: October 05, 2006
Author: Amazon User

Lineage 2, like most MMORPGs on the market, is an utterly mixed bag. Players coming from a realm based game, such as World of Warcraft or Dark Age of Camelot, or from an optional PvP game, such as Ultima Online, will find the realm-less free for all PvP world of Lineage 2 at times exciting and others unsettling. Ganking is however kept to a minimum via a PK counter on the offending character (they get a pk count ONLY if the person they're attacking doesn't fight back) and at higher PK counts they can't enter villages and have a much greater chance to drop gear when they die and can possibly even drop a weapon. This means, for all practical purposes, that the bulk of non-consensual PvP is kept to a minimum on most servers.

Alright, Phil. I'm intrigued. What other unique aspects does this game have?
Easiest said is the soundtrack, which is rich, detailed and in some cases even makes it pleasent to sit in a village. L2 took the console RPG theory behind mustic and applied it to MMORPG's, which typically only played music upon zoning or entering a town, and then only a 15-30 second blip. The graphics are fantastic, especially considering when it was made. Character models are all fairly similar among members of the same race which is a bummer but toons don't suffer from DDO and EQ2 characters that are so detailed they become ugly. Gameplay is exceptionally easy, which is a double edged sword, as the new will love it because they can hop right on while the longer you play it the more apt you are to become bored, although the amount of skills your character has access to at any given time corresponds nicely with level so it does become 'somewhat' more complex as your character levels up.

Well, Phil, you only gave this 3 stars overall. What gives?
Well, first off, the PvP system is sorely lacking. If you win a PvP fight, you get nothing unless your opponent drops some gear (very rare). If you lose, you lose xp (and possibly de-level) and may drop some gear, which the guy who killed you might pick up. Some folks make special "red toons" who they take out just for the sake of killing people, usually for ganking lowbies. This doesn't happen often, but it does happen. Another problem with the PvP system is the formal keep fights, which are laggy and suffer from the same penalty based PvP ruleset as the informal PvP. The other problem with formal keep PvP is that you need to be a part of good sized guild just to have a shot at getting one, and by extension that guild needs to be part of a good sized alliance. Finding these things with other players you can tolerate is quite a challenge at times and finding a guild with other players you like... well that's a tough one. Speaking of finding a guild, leveling and keeping yourself in decent gear won't be easy without them, and guess what, guilds don't camp the lowbie towns looking for new players, they occupy higher level areas typically looking for 40 or even 52+ level characters of a specific class. Oh, and then there are the bots... bots are everywhere farming adena to sell on their websites to people who don't have a guild or don't know how to make money (or to people who are just too lazy). Trying to level in a starter area? Good luck, you'll need it to overcome the bot scourge across the land. Want to play a dwarf? Congratz, you're bound to be mistaken for a bot everywhere you go as dwarves are the favored race by bot users.

Overall, the game is fun but is often times more hassle and time consuming than it's really worth. Good luck out there.

fun game, really bad support

3 Rating: 3, Useful: 5 / 8
Date: September 11, 2004
Author: Amazon User

i personally enjoyed the game. i will admit, there is a lot of grinding involved, a ton of farmers, and bots, but the worst would have to be the costumer support. i played the game up until lvl 40, had a good time, but i have been scammed twice (gms just laughed at me), and on top of that a guy that used to live with me called in my account as credit card fraud, and ncsoft just banned my account right away, without notifying me at all. when i had the guy call back and say it was a mistake, ncsoft still left my account banned, and refused to open it. lost a clan, my character from beta, and much money worth of stuff. i have nothing but the worst to say about ncsoft, and i hope they burn in hell :)

Pretty doesn't mean good...

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 5 / 8
Date: May 09, 2004
Author: Amazon User

I played the game in open beta also, and I must say I found it very boring, the fact that the graphics are amazing doesn't meant the game is too. It was a good time killer, but that's about it. You plat it because there's nothing else to do. This game isn't worth it, (...).

Tragically beautiful

2 Rating: 2, Useful: 6 / 11
Date: August 30, 2004
Author: Amazon User

Pros:
-Best graphics of any MMORPG currently on the market, w/o a doubt

Cons:
-Nearly unmonitored gameplay. Excessive Player Killing, Exploits, and money/loot farming have all but destroyed the game in its short life span.

-Very limited pool of weapons/spells to use. Only 1-4 weapons/spells for each "tier" of player level range.

-Items and travel are EXTREMELY expensive in terms of payout/cost ratio. Grind 3 weeks for 1 million "adena" then buy
your weapon...get player killed by level 40 ranger...drop ur new weapon upon death...rinse repeat.

-Overall horrible customer support system. Despite the fact that all MMORPG supports aren't fantastic, L2 seems to be the worst.

Summary:
L2 is a visually gorgeous game that DOES NOT have the gameplay to support it. If you purchase this game expect an extremely tough time starting out. Also expect tougher leveling requirements than other games. If you are a 13 yr. old griefer that enjoys screaming "I PWN'D JOO!! n00Bz!!"...or someone looking to farm to make some fast cash, then this is the game for you. If you are someone looking for a real role-playing experience in a questing environment then I highly recommend that you stay with something else till EQII or WoW goes live.

Hands Down the Best MMORPG in Existence

5 Rating: 5, Useful: 6 / 11
Date: October 12, 2004
Author: Amazon User

Lineage II features stunning graphics, full-surround 3D sound, a huge world to explore that is constantly expanding, and tens of thousands of players from all over the world to interact with. The quests are directly supplemental to gameplay, and the game itself requires constant attention to managing your time and resources as well an unending vigilance in a dangrous world. It starts slow, and can take much longer than most games to level up and achieve better gear, but at the same time, when you do reach a new level or finally get that super weapon, you really feel like you've accomplished something. Then comes the challenge of keeping it!

Lineage II is the ideal game for someone bored with the fast-leveling easy path to wealth presented by most MMORPGs, or someone tired of looking at quirky cartoon graphics with endlessly silly variations. Finally, a MMORPG that requires thought, planning, and attention to your environment. The most challenging online experience in the modern world. If you're bored with MMORPGs, then this one will rekindle your love of virtual fantasy worlds.

Not a game for the faint of heart.

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